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because i cant tell who we are

Well, i would advise you not to engage on conversations that make you feel like that unless its completely necesary... No need to torture oneself, still i dont want to make anyone feel bad.

i guess we didnt know until it was too late.

3:50 AM

Is it Normal for tulpas though to uncontrollably rapid switch

I dont know what that is

3:50 AM

How do you "realize" that you are switching rapidly?

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

How do you "realize" that you are switching rapidly?

I cant tell who we are and sometimes i feelike momo and sometimes not

I get the feel that you are actively trying to self diagnose yourself with something...

3:52 AM

I would advise against that.

they. asked a question. how is that

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Sorry i should probably just not i should probably stop i just wanted to know if this symptom was a concern because it feels like it

Usually for you to realize that you would need to see that the front is doing something that the other headmate would do.

what. does that mean

3:57 AM

we.. dont have amnesia so i guess its suddenly fake??

For you to realize that you switched you must first start acting like the other one.

3:57 AM

Or thinking like them

3:58 AM

And realize that that happened.

I think im realizing thats happening but its really hard to tell so

Um btw sorry for all that That was really weird

Definitions of mental disorders in the DSM-5 consider these 5 factors: 1 A behavioral or psychological syndrome or pattern that occurs in an individual 2 Reflects an underlying psychobiological dysfunction 3 The consequences of which are clinically significant distress (e.g., a painful symptom) or disability (i.e., impairment in one or more important areas of functioning) 4 Must not be merely an expected response to common stressors and losses (ex. the loss of a loved one) or a culturally sanctioned response to a particular event (ex. trance states in religious rituals) 5 Primarily a result of social deviance or conflicts with society Some headmates might not show symptoms of some disorder that other headmates do, or be much better in managing symptoms of a disorder that can be managed internally without a medical or pharmacoligal intervention In that case if headmate suffers from the same disorder that host does I would say say and most doctors wpuld say it too, since they treat system as one person Headmate can also be dissociated from the causes of a disorder enough to not experience it But it all just comes to what you choose to define disorder and headmate as, it’s all matter of interpretation and in the end of the day if you experience severe symptoms you might want to seek help

The brain...is complicated...

Sooo a few days ago I felt like I was really making progress with my tulpa. She was pretty chatty and present and developing some independence but I feel like we’ve started going backwards. I know quiet times aren’t unusual but I feel like we were just getting somewhere. The past few days I’ve decided she probably just needs some time to herself to develop but I’m starting to get worried that my lack of attention to her is causing some sort of backsliding in her progress because she seems to only be getting more distant, not less. Anyways. Thoughts? Should I try and pull her out of it or just let her be? Other suggestions?

I think you should try to talk to her every day, and let her respond when she's ready

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Yeah I haven’t been talking with her much because I thought it might be annoying but I’m starting to miss her : (

for us its more like i need alone time as a host, and her not so much

So my idea is to meditate on this video https://youtu.be/wvEdQM241OA and keep listening to it and get use to this voice as this voice i would like my tulpa to have is that a good way of tulpa forcing

Yeah that works

Kk

should talking to my tulpa be simply speaking and getting a response? what if it's not as easily simple as that? (edited)

it can be speaking aloud, or thinking to them

well and if it doesn't work?

11:52 PM

i called by her name various times and then said nothing else, no answer, was that a mistake to do?

No

why?

It wasn't a mistake, it just means she's either dormant or ignoring you

i didnt have anything of value to bring

12:01 AM

i should have said something else but i didnt

12:02 AM

i called by her name repeatedly various times is what i meant to say

12:03 AM

it feels wrong to do this and bring nothing after the fact, repeatedly (edited)

If it feels wrong to do, try something else Try just chatting about something or talking to her and waiting for a response

i didnt think of doing something else

Just talk about your day, I guess.

i dont feel comfortable, i think she should be able to figure that out by herself if she wants so

12:48 AM

i am currently facing that broader issue

Well, it's not much of a conversation if you refuse to tell her anything and make her figure it out herself.

12:50 AM

I'd personally not want to talk to someone who made me go through all thay effort just to interact with them either.

sadly, that's how we ended up as

12:51 AM

i have a bigger problem to solve than this communication thing

12:51 AM

fear

Alright

thanks for the response anyway

Sure thing.

waits patiently

I recently found out what tulpamacy was so i decided to try it- i talk to them whenever I remember to but im not sure if they have been responding or if im overthinking yk? so how would I know that they're responding to me- side note i get small headaches sometimes when i do it and once i got this weird feeling on my face like there was a small sandbag there- idk how to describe it but it was weird (edited)

1:41 AM

";v;

well

1:41 AM

are you getting responses

1:43 AM

as in, is this a matter of you dont know if your getting responses, or are you uncertain whether the responses are them @Deleted User

berockly (TTG)

waits patiently

hm?

berockly (TTG)

as in, is this a matter of you dont know if your getting responses, or are you uncertain whether the responses are them @Deleted User

idk if im getting responses i feel like im just talking for them sometimes-

1:44 AM

i try to stop myself tho

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idk if im getting responses i feel like im just talking for them sometimes-

so, your unsure if they are their responses then

1:45 AM

in that case, its best to assume they are

1:45 AM

try not to doubt it

1:45 AM

its them because you believe it is

1:45 AM

and it gradually becomes more smooth and automatic

1:46 AM

(Their responses)

ohh okay

i had super quick progress when i thought "its my thoughts but not quite" means it is 100% your tulpa, and then ignore the feeling that its "your thoughts"

8:15 AM

then it quickly became thoughts i could identify as my tulpa, and then i stopped assuming all weird thoughts are her to stop random intrusive thoughts

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8:16 AM

lets just say the intrusive thoughts became a bit of a problem lookingdownsmile

8:17 AM

i had 4 hours of sleep that night and in the evening i kinda broke down with all the intrusive thoughts and wanted back to "normal"

8:17 AM

but we got a good grip of it and now i dont

8:18 AM

headaches and weird feelings in your head are a good sign of progress

Luminesce: Those usually happen when you're using mental muscles you haven't really used much in the past. Lots of internal focus, visualization and maybe even the actual tulpa-associated activity might be new for a lot of people (edited)

I would hesitate before interpreting any kind of pain as a good sign of progress...

Generally works to think of "mental muscles" like literal muscles, they get stronger as you use them but they might ache when first working them out if you've never used them before. And they tend to get a little weaker over time if never ever used for a long time

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

I would hesitate before interpreting any kind of pain as a good sign of progress...

Luminesce: But yeah, no actual pain, twitches or so on are necessary to correlate with tulpamancy progress. Anything uncomfortable that doesn't go away over time is more likely a health issue than "progress" (edited)

8:22 AM

("Forcing headaches" and such shouldn't happen forever... If they happen at all)

What i mean is that, you shouldnt strive towards getting those...

8:22 AM

So i woundt use them as "progress indicators"

its a good sign of progress, but you shouldnt go for the biggest headache possible (edited)

Luminesce: I never experienced anything of the sort, but that may be because I was more mentally-active in similar ways (lots of introspective thought/internal focus + lots of visualization from reading, pre-tulpas) (edited)

or any headache at all

8:23 AM

just a sign

Which is why I'm noting it's not necessarily tulpa-caused, so much as mental-muscle-caused

I think there is much better signs of progress to even have the need of interpreting headaches as one (edited)

ive always been good with inner speech, so im sure it was just the tulpa developing and my mindset changing

the muscle is not inner speach, is just forcing something weird (tulpa creation related processes) in your brain.

8:25 AM

But yeah, there is better landmars to use as progress indicators

Luminesce: Even though I made my tulpas on accident, it still happened slowly over a period of months, so I didn't really gather personal data on the "tulpa"-related processes in your brain causing mental strain or anything, unfortunately (edited)

8:26 AM

Definitely possible though, certainly been reported enough times

I would interpret a temporal headache as what it is, unimportant eventuality

very important note: have good amount of sleep, weird things happen in mind when you sleep little

I didnt sleep today

8:27 AM

But it is because yesterday i woke up at 8pm

8:27 AM

so to compensate ill go to sleep today at night

im talking to @aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae since they said they slept 4h that night